Tournament Rounds Are Now 8am Starts

We are happy to announce that all tournament and Championship Rounds will be 8am shotgun starts this year.

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  1. Jeff says:


    In previous years we had an earlier starting time for each round. This past year you decided to move it to 8:30 starts. Our last round at Conestoga lasted well over 6 hours. We waited on almost every tee box in probably the hottest day I ever experienced in the Mesquite Am. On my job I work outside. Heat stress and heat stroke is one of the safety concerns of my profession being a lineman. There were definitely too many of the players who started to feel the effects of heat stress. One of my friends from one of the Senior divisions passed out and had to have medical assistance.
    Could you reconsider your stance on 8:30 starts vs. 7:30 starts like we had in the past? It’s amazing what a difference an hour makes. Getting the players off the course before they experience too much of the heat of the day should be a concern. It probably wouldn’t have been an issue if we were done in 4 hours.

    1. christian says:


      We did have the round start at 8am this year and you are correct the rounds were long on some courses. I have addressed with the courses to have their marshall’s be more active this year to encourage people to increase their pace of play. We are looking at pushing back the tee times to 7:30am starts. We had a lot of requests for people to push it to 8am and we wanted to give it a try.

      Like everything else we will look to see which will work better. Once we make that decision we will let everyone know. We look forward to seeing you in 2013.


  2. Jim S says:

    Thank you for your fast reply and information. Can’t wait to meet new friends and have a great time playing some great courses.

  3. Jim S says:

    I will be playing in the Mesquite Amatuer for the first time in 2013, and have a couple of questions. I will be in the Super Senior Division, can anyone tell me the approximate yardage that is played for this flight? Also I plan on getting to Mesquite a couple of days early, do they have any pre tournament games like they do at the World Am?

    1. christian says:


      We look forward to having you participate in this years event. For the Super Seniors depending on your handicap you will be playing from around 6100 yards (whites at most courses). There are people that do pre tournament skins game and practice rounds. A lot of them monitor the blog and I am sure will be more than happy to give you information.

  4. Doc Henson says:

    No quite so lucky David! will enjoy the golf as always! First outing of the year for me,so I’ll be happy as a clam all week,but couldn’t shake the wife….

  5. Jim O says:

    Looking to put togeather a foursome for an early ( 8-9am) morning practice round on the casablanca course on Monday May 28th. Im a senior playing in the Watson flight …about a 7 index. Anyone interested drop me an email and i will set it up and let you know. JOHAREGOLF@AOL.COM

  6. David DeRango says:

    we all have that problem, I call it Golf with fun dudes and have a great time.

    But for me it 6 days of golf with out the wife and with out a care in the world.

  7. Doc Henson says:

    Thanks George!What’s wrong with me? Can’t believe I’m this excited to see a bunch of DUDES!

  8. David says:

    Buy the way on the wbe page who is laying down??
    You have the list of guys I want to be paired up with for Monday, and for Sunday and body who wants to have fun.
    see you soon.

  9. George Salcedo says:

    Doc it would be great to have you back. Let me know if you want in the early games. Always room for a vet. Hope to see ya soon. STMF

  10. Doc Henson says:

    Hey Stan & George! I may catch a break here and be able to make it this year. Won’t know for sure for a day or so! Look forward to seeing you guys and donating/taking a few bucks! Miss you guys- Doc

  11. David DeRango says:

    Stan, bring back a good single malt Scotch.

  12. Kerry says:

    Hey Stan,

    Stop by Biloxi and pick up MJ. He would probably be happy to go with you. He is there Golfing with the Backspinforum bunch.

  13. Stan Mahaffey says:

    Wheels up @ 10:30 am tomorrow for 10 day trip to Scotland! St. Andrews and Carnoustie on the schedule. Temps in the mid 40’s. Perfect for the Scottish experience!

  14. David DeRango says:

    Great I have to wait for nice weather last night cold and damp shot a 43 with two doubles cold weather affecting my game!!!
    22 days till touchdown in Vegas then on to Mesquite looking forward to the first skins game and then Casablanca Lounge to meet all of my Blog and golf buddies, too bad my golf buddies are a bunch of scared-cats they are going to miss out on a great week.
    Would rather hang around with you guys, Oh and ladies.
    see everybody soon.

  15. Kerry says:

    Well, we have hit May. That means that I will arrive “back” in Mesquite in 24 days. This time for the Tournament. Can not wait to see all my Tournament Buddies. Saturday I will golf, Somewhere. No Tee Time yet. Sunday is for relax & massage. Monday is getting money from George’s Skin Game, And then it is Tournament time. Wheels down & 80 MPH

  16. Kerry says:

    Ok folks,
    This is where we are at:

    As of the Participant list dated 4/27/2012

    Men – 77
    Senior – 122
    Super Senior – 178
    Masters – 77
    Women – 106
    Gross – 2

    Total – 562

  17. Kerry says:

    Printing list now. will do my unofficial count, unless my eyes blur. Really long weekend. Started with drive to Mesquite and Golf Thursday. And so on. Just got home. Sorry David. Weather in Mesquite was great.


  18. David DeRango says:

    First Kerry, thanks just what I want to hear, warm and beautiful weather play well, I played today too!! 55 and windy with rain!!!! cannot wait again!!

    Barry, I have not had a 6 hour round in this event yet, but 5 to 5-1/2 is what the average length is what I have experienced.
    I my mind every minute on the course is time away from the wife is gold, and yes I am nuts too.

  19. Barry Johnston says:

    The mention of a 6 hour round above does not sound like fun. What is the average round length during the event? Anything done to increase pace of play? Clock penalties/warnings?

  20. Kerry says:

    Hey David,

    Beautiful in Mesquite right now. High 80’s to 90’s. Playing Oasis-Palmer in 1/2 an hour. Got to go. Don’t want to be late.

  21. Kerry says:

    Well Vegas Jack,

    It started that way, but as with any forum, it got Jacked. So we just go with the flow.


  22. Vegas Jack says:

    Is this the forum about new start times or did I miss something?

  23. David says:

    I would love a warm day, Chicago has not been out of the 50’s for the last two weeks I do not like playing golf trying to say warm.
    looking forward to some warm weather at anytime of the day.
    24 days till touch down in Vegas.
    safe travels all.

  24. Jerry says:


    Will we a list this week?

    1. christian says:

      Should see one today at some point.

  25. George Salcedo says:

    I like your thinking. Something new to try in “12”. Salute and see you soon. STMF

  26. Richard says:

    Sorry to see the time change. As pace of play slows down when the temp goes up the extra half hour of extreme heat will make rounds even longer. This years tempertures are projecting to be 5 – 10 degress above normal making it comparible to the 2004 tournament (least we forget the 6 hour round in 105 degree heat at Coral Canyon in ’04). By day 3 you will definitely start notice the extra time in the heat.

    To George’s point on morning recovery time, a hangover is nothing but withdrawal sypmtoms. If you never stop drinking, you never have a hangover. Bottoms up. Only 26 days till I hit Mesquite.

  27. George Salcedo says:

    Update to both skins games. The Sunday gross game at Falcon Ridge is up to 43 players and we have 9 spots left. The Monday net game at The Palms has 103 players registered with 9 spots left. If anyone is playing either of those courses and you want to get in a practice round this might be the way for you. Meet a lot of nice people, play some golf and have a chance at starting the week off right by winning some money. is the website or if you have any questions just drop me a line here. Safe travels to all I lift off in 27 days. STMF

  28. David DeRango says:

    Ok Stan, now you are in the Super Seniors who will do it for the seniors??
    Do not leave that up to me I can screw up a two car funeral?
    Any one what to run this I will help!!!

  29. George Salcedo says:

    Just like Stan I will volunteer my services to run the skins in the mens 49 and under flight. Not as lucky to move up in flights like Stan, 5 more years. I do all men together, the higher handicappers play from a tee up so it makes it fair. 20 a day and we pay out in bar afterwards. Open to all men in the flight. Good luck on travels, see you in 30 days. STMF

  30. Stan Mahaffey says:

    I am moving up to the Super Seniors this year and will be happy to run a daily Skins games for the Nicklaus, Palmer, & Player groups. I have run it for the last 6 years in the seniors. We will do $20/day and heads-up in your own flights. On Thursday we will do an additional pool for all the players in the rotation (that will be $40 for Thursday to play both). You can hang around after the round to collect, I can pay you the following day, or you can find me at dinner. On Thursday you will need to hang around or find me that night.

  31. Vegas Jack says:

    Hey great an extra 1/2 hr to sleep. Wouldn’t break my heart if it were 10 or 11 am Shotgun, more my style with dry non-resistant fairways, dry receptive fast greens and more sleep, lol.

  32. David says:

    Right no Jeff!! Mesquite at a 100 degrees which Mesquite is all week sounding great right about now, my golf league starts Monday and Chicago will be 53 degrees and 22 mph wind!!
    31 days can counting till I am in Vegas cannot wait!! yep said that before.

  33. Jeff says:

    Played in our associations opening scramble today. 41 and rain. You can start at noon in Mesquite with 100 degrees. It will be better than 41 and rain, any day. I would have rather not even rolled out of bed than play in a cold rain. And by our score we shouldn’t have. Looking forward to not having to wear rain suits and sweat shirts underneath that. The hotter the better.

  34. David DeRango says:

    Ok Christian no problem I can work with it jsut wondering.

    But I get confused walking down the street.
    Thank you see you soon.

  35. David DeRango says:

    Yes, Jim Golf is the priority and the only thing.
    But for the guy’s and ladies signed up for the Texas Hold’em tournament we do not want to be too late for it.
    We want a fighting chance to win this thing!!!

    RVXTC4US congrads on the retirement I have min 5years yet, I will save you your Cuervo and seven at the Casablanca Lounge at the skins check in.
    36 days left saft travles all.

  36. Jim says:

    Coyote springs is a 45 minute drive already the extra half hour is a good thing. If we have to change it lets make it 8:30. Poker room is open 24-7, golf is the priority. Just my thoughts.

  37. RVXTC4US says:

    We’ll I’ll be newly retired and this tourney was a present to myself. I’m tired of the great northwet and am looking forward to the heat and sun!!! 8:00am it is. Looking forward to it!! We’ll be taking 2-3 weeks to get to Mesquite from the Seattle area. Fun stuff save me a Cuervo and seven.

  38. Jerry says:

    I think you still have to beat the other players in your group or go backwards no matter what the time is.

  39. David DeRango says:

    Yes it will be tuff getting back for the Texas Hold’em tournament maybe for the players that are going to Coyote Springs have there tee times stay at 7:30am?? what do you think Christian??

    1. christian says:


      We cannot have different start times as it would be way too confusing for people. So we will leave it the way it is and people will just have to make the decision on the Poker Event.

  40. Jim Tallant says:

    Looking forward to my first time in mesquite. Just checking out last years winners. Wow some great shooting in the mickelson flight.

  41. George Salcedo says:

    I like the 8 am start. Gives more time for breakfast, hangover control, people to get into daily skins games and maybe a couple hands of Black Jack. 37 days for me

  42. David DeRango says:

    Yes, I know Ron your are right, as I told my wife before they put me in that box they will have to pry the club from my cold dead hand so you can close it!!

  43. Ron says:

    David, you should be happy you will be playing in the super seniors in a few years, i will be playing masters this year and the alternative really sucks.

  44. David DeRango says:

    OK!!OK!! I forgot the start time?? I am getting old OK!! After next year I will be playing in the super seniors and not happy about that!! Cause I am getting old too fast!
    So we start 30 mins sooner, like Jeff I am up before with the sun and I play with my wimp golf buddies at 6:am here in Chicago, an 8am tee time is good for me, and yes it will be tuff getting back for the Texas Hold’em tournament.
    But 6 days in Mesquite without the wife playing golf with you nice guys like all of you is heaven on earth, do not care about the small stuff I cannot wait, whoops I said that again and I will say is again cannot wait.
    37 days!!! Till I am in Vegas then 3 days more till Mesquite, I will be hanging around George in the Casablanca Lounge, come by and let’s have a few cocktails, and just like last year you will know me by the smile on my face that will not come off.
    Safe travels all.

  45. Kerry says:

    It is actually the Justin Timberlake Shiners Hospital PGA Tournament. I’m not a big fan either, But I am a Volunteer Junky. I go to the US Open at the Olympic Club a week after the Mesquite Am. Then the US Public Links Amateur in July. And that same week I also will be at the Utah Championship Nationwide Tournament. I would like to play Timberlake’s Course he had built in Tennessee one day.

    The agreeing was we were starting 1/2 hour later, David made it sound like 1/2 hour earlier.

  46. Phil Carrell says:

    I think 8:00Am starts are fine. It keeps everyone from having to hurry through breakfast and scurry to the golf course so you can hit a few practice balls before the start. It also gives the course more time to get ready for the rounds. 30 more minutes in the heat will not make any difference.

  47. Jeff says:

    Not sure what you think we’re agreeing upon, Kerry. But I’d just leave well enough alone. 8:00AM starts are really 11:00AM starts for me. I never can get adjusted to the time change. I play with some groups that tee off as soon as the sun comes up. First tee by 6:15AM sitting in the clubhouse by 10:30AM after the round. Never fails when I get to Mesquite, I’ll be up at 3:00AM because I’m normally up and heading for work by then. Except it’s 6:00 here.
    Didn’t look into flying into St.George. Mainly because I couldn’t get direct flights to there anyways. I’ll take the 4 hour direct flight into Vegas. I’m not a big fan of lay overs. Just get on the plane and get me there.
    Never was much of a Justin Timberlake fan. Then I seen him do his Single Ladies video with Beoncy on SNL. He is a trip. That was one of the funniest skits I’ve ever seen. Probably second only to Chris Farley auditioning for the Chip n’Dales with Patrick Swayze.

  48. Kerry says:

    Well Jeff,

    That is why I only work 4 days a week. When I work 5, it really screws me up. And I drive everywhere. But I know what you mean about trying to make it back from Coyote Springs. Think about using the St George Airport. I believe it is Frontier Airlines that flies in there.

    And David,

    I like the way that I make it sound like it is starting 30 Minutes later, and you make it sound like we are starting 30 minutes earlier. And Jeff agrees with me.

    Oh yea Jeff,

    I will be golfing in Mesquite on April 28, 29, and 30. On my way home from my Nephew’s wedding in LA area. So I’m calling it 2 weeks for me. But I am looking forward to seeing all my Mesquite Am. buddies in 6 weeks.

    And I just volunteered to work the Justin Timberlake Golf Tournament in Las Vegas in October. Anybody else want to join me?

  49. Jeff says:

    I’m not sure that’s the best for everybody. I know the extra 30 minutes was pretty much needed to get my friend to the airport last year on time. I like the 7:30 starts myself just for the heat factor. Also one BIG thing to consider, those playing in the Texas Hold’em tournament on Wednesday who are playing at Coyote Springs will be hard pressed to get to the Casino by the 3:00PM start time. I know they can come in late, but, how many hands of pocket Aces will have been dealt to them by that time? It could end up better for them if they would have been beat by three 2’s. Just a thought. It’s not going to really affect me this year unless I luck into the finals and have a 6 hour championship round with my plane leaving at 4:30PM. As long we don’t run into too much traffic coming into Vegas I’ll make it with plenty of time to spare. Lets not think about leaving though, I’m sure we’re all thinking about getting there! 6 long weeks! And why does the last work week seem to drag on forever before we leave?

  50. David says:

    OK for me just have to eat breakfast sooner!! and more time to drink after the round!

  51. Kerry says:

    Works for me. Will give Breakfast some time to settle. Or for the previous nights Adult Beverages to subside. Some extra sleep, NOT.